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		<title>Could RAFALE benefit from F-35 glitches?</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2012 23:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>The British Harriers were to be replaced by the F-35Cs. Do you remember? You may have learnt from the recent news that the carrier variant of the Lockheed Martin Aeronautics Joint Strike Fighter &#8211; CV JSF (Carrier Vessel variant&#8217;s Joint<span class="ellipsis">&#8230;</span></p>
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<p>The British <strong>Harriers</strong> were to be replaced by the <strong>F-35C</strong>s. Do you remember? You may have learnt from the recent news that the carrier variant of the Lockheed Martin Aeronautics Joint Strike Fighter &#8211; CV JSF (Carrier Vessel variant&rsquo;s Joint Strike Fighter) &#8211; F-35C was <strong>unable to catch the wire onboard the aircraft carrier</strong> during the latest landing tests.</p>
<p>Strange as it may seem, the F-35C&rsquo;s designers may have not forecast what would unfold during a test flight while landing on an aircraft carrier:</p>
<p>The <strong>arresting hook</strong> (<strong>tailhook</strong>) never engaged the arresting wire as the clearance between the tail hook and the main landing gear&rsquo;s tyre tread is too short for such a speed. An <strong>F-35C Lightning II</strong> missing her carrier landing has been reported even though some U.S. officials would have dismissed such information which might result from simulated tests.</p>
<p>Added to that is a software bug which had grounded the CV JSF for 6 days a few month earlier for the fifth-generation fighter aircraft might have encountered <a title="F-35C - CV JSF" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-35C#F-35C" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">wing-folding input</a> while flying!</p>
<p>As a result, the British Ministry of Defence might find a Plan-B solution as these design flaws, and <a title="F-35 - Concerns over performance and safety" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_F-35_Lightning_II#Concerns_over_performance_and_safety" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">some others which date back to November 2011</a> are deemed unacceptable for such an expensive fighter aircraft &#8211; $139.5 million for the F-35C (CATOBAR &#8211; Catapult Assisted Take Off But Arrested Recovery), and $150 million for the F-35B (STOVL &#8211; Short Take-Off and Vertical Landing). The latter can land on carriers but she is more expensive, and the JSF program costs have already increased several times.</p>
<h4>Moreover, the JSF would not be able to fire AMRAAM air-to-air missiles as reported in this video:</h4>
<p><center><iframe src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/GTf-eXtVVeI?rel=0" width="560" height="315" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen="allowfullscreen"></iframe></center></p>
<figure id="attachment_4308" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-4308" style="width: 640px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/20100523-RAFALE-La-Ferté-Alais-222.jpg"><img decoding="async" class="wp-image-4308 size-full" title="20100523 RAFALE La Ferté Alais 222" src="/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/20100523-RAFALE-La-Fert&eacute;-Alais-222.jpg" alt="RAFALE La Ferté Alais 2010 - © Xavier Cotton http://www.passionpourlaviation.fr/" width="640" height="480" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-4308" class="wp-caption-text">RAFALE La Ferté Alais 2010 © Xavier Cotton <a href="https://www.passionpourlaviation.fr/">http://www.passionpourlaviation.fr/</a></figcaption></figure>
<p>And there&rsquo;s even more: according to <a title="U.S. DoD - F-35 Quick Look Review " href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_F-35_Lightning_II#cite_note-104" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">a Pentagon study team report</a>, 13 areas of concern that remained to be addressed in the F-35 would have been identified. For instance, the Helmet Mounted Display System (HMDS) would not work properly&#8230;</p>
<p>The British <strong>MoD</strong> is therefore considering the purchase of either <strong>F/A-18E Super Hornets</strong> or <strong>RAFALEs</strong> for the <strong>RAF</strong>. The French Dassault which has already lost the Swiss NAC tender due to replace the Swiss Air Force&rsquo;s F-5s, would be proposing a new offer with 18 RAFALEs at a cost deemed lower than the 22 SAAB Gripens&rsquo; one according to the Swiss press.</p>
<p>The <strong>RAFALE</strong> is still in competition with the <strong>Eurofighter</strong> in the <strong>Indian MMRCA tender</strong>. the Indian officials are expected to make a decision this week. To be continued&#8230; ==&gt; We have just learnt (on January 31, 2012) that the RAFALE has won the MMRCA tender&#8230; <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/15.0.3/72x72/1f642.png" alt="🙂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p><center>Photo 1: <a href="https://airforces.fr/contact/"> © Recce 233 Savoie</a>; Photo 2:<a href="https://www.passionpourlaviation.fr/"> © Xavier Cotton &#8211; http://passiondesavions.blogspot.com/</a></center></p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2011 22:16:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>11/30/2011 &#8211; The news broke today : The Swiss Air Force is to acquire 22 Sweedish SAAB GRIPEN fighter aircraft. The Swiss government had warned that they were compelled to squeeze their budget for this $3.36 billion bid as they<span class="ellipsis">&#8230;</span></p>
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<p>11/30/2011 &#8211; The news broke today : The Swiss Air Force is to acquire 22 Sweedish SAAB GRIPEN fighter aircraft. The Swiss government had warned that they were compelled to squeeze their budget for this $3.36 billion bid as they could not afford to purchase the 33 fighter aircraft planned for the replacement of their F-5 Tiger fleet.</p>
<p><b>In spite of its outstanding performance during the tests as well as over the battlefields in Afghanistan, and in Libya, the Dassault Rafale was not chosen</b>. Moreover, like the EADS Eurofighter/Typhoon, it was deemed too expensive for Switzerland could not buy as many aircraft within the budget allocated.</p>
<p>The Gripen is a good option for Switzerland since it is the cheapest one. The version to be delivered &#8211; JAS 39E/F or Gripen Demo/NG &#8211; is believed to be an excellent one &#8211; IRST (InfraRed Search and Track); ES-05 Raven AESA (Active Electronically Scanned Array) radar &#038; SAR  (Synthetic Aperture Radar); Electronic Warfare (EW) systems; Helmet Mounted Sight and Display (HMSD)&#8230;</p>
<p>However, this new-generation Gripen NG is a single engine fighter aircraft. It was tactically outperformed by its opponents, and last but not least, it has not yet been produced. As a matter of fact, the Swiss should be involved in the R&#038;D works.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Toni G.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2011 19:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>No other fighter aircraft will be as omnipresent at the Paris Air Show as the Rafale as it has been shorlisted for India&#8217;s MMRCA (Medium Multi-Role Combat Aircraft) tender along with the Eurofighter. The IAF (Indian Air Force) is to<span class="ellipsis">&#8230;</span></p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<figure id="attachment_5934" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-5934" style="width: 300px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="https://www.passionpourlaviation.fr/"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="size-medium wp-image-5934" title="P1030410_rafale" src="/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/P1030410_rafale-300x225.jpg" alt="RAFALE Le Bourget Airshow" width="300" height="225" srcset="https://airforces.fr/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/P1030410_rafale-300x225.jpg 300w, https://airforces.fr/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/P1030410_rafale.jpg 640w" sizes="(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-5934" class="wp-caption-text">RAFALE Le Bourget 2009 &#8211; Xavier Cotton https://www.passionpourlaviation.fr</figcaption></figure>
<p style="text-align: justify;">No other fighter aircraft will be as omnipresent at the Paris Air Show as the Rafale as it has been shorlisted for India&rsquo;s <a href="https://airforces.fr/2011/04/29/indias-fighter-aircraft-deal-rafale-and-typhoonstillincompetition/">MMRCA</a> (Medium Multi-Role Combat Aircraft) tender along with the Eurofighter. The IAF (Indian Air Force) is to order 126 multirole fighter aircraft for a deal of up to $10 billion. The <a href="https://airforces.fr/2009/12/20/rafale-vs-typhooneurofighter/">French Dassault Rafale</a> is still in competition with the Swedish SAAB JAS 39 Gripen, and the American F/A-18E/F Super Hornet in <a href="https://airforces.fr/2011/02/09/brazil-to-buy-u-s-f-18s-instead-of-french-rafales/">Brazil</a>.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">The Rafale also remains with the Gripen, and the Eurofighter in the <a href="https://airforces.fr/2008/10/18/rafale-evaluation-in-switzerland/">Swiss NAC competition</a> in order to replace the Swiss Air Force F-5s. The <a href="https://airforces.fr/2011/02/20/french-fighterjets-andor-pilots-possibly-superior/">French Air Force</a> has already demonstrated through the Rafale its combat readiness in Afghanistan, and over Libya. Its brand new reconnaissance pod Reco NG is now flying, and it managed to strike moving targets with its laser-guided AASM &#8211; Air-to-Ground Modular Weapon &#8211; beyond all expectations.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Its new Thales RBE2-AA <a href="https://airforces.fr/2010/06/07/f-16-anapg-80-aesa-radar/">AESA radar</a> is still being developed. It has already been tested, and should be fully operational next year.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">ToT (Transfer of Technology) has been pledged for the Rafale if the Indian government were to make its procurement decision.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Special thanks to Xavier Cotton, an aviation geek who provided the top left picture. Please visit his website <a href="https://www.passionpourlaviation.fr/">https://www.passionpourlaviation.fr/</a> full of fantastic posts about aircraft of all time as well as from everywhere.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Toni G.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Feb 2011 23:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>First of all, it is not that simple. Last instance: The « World&#8217;s Armed Forces Forum » has recently posted a new topic relating to this Prepa PLS Anglais post: /rafale-vs-typhooneurofighter/ which was edited here on December 20, 2009. It is very<span class="ellipsis">&#8230;</span></p>
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<p>First of all, it is not that simple. Last instance: The « World&rsquo;s Armed Forces Forum » has recently posted a new topic relating to this Prepa PLS Anglais post: <a href="https://airforces.fr/2009/12/20/rafale-vs-typhooneurofighter/">/rafale-vs-typhooneurofighter/</a> which was edited here on December 20, <b>2009</b>. It is very clear that this was just a post to pass rumors on to other websurfers who may not have already read/heard such gossips.</p>
<p>This post may have been deemed as a preposterous one among the aviation community. That is why I then posted this post: <a href="https://airforces.fr/2010/02/14/french-fighter-aircraft-performance/">/french-fighter-aircraft-performance/</a> in <b>early 2010</b>. Well, in hindsight I ought to add that I had forgotten that confrontation between the French Dassault fighter aircraft with the Eurofighter: the Rafales &#8211; there were <b>only two of them</b> according to the report &#8211; shot down <b>four</b> Typhoons during an exercise. Yes, twice as many&#8230;</p>
<p>The assumption that a Rafale might have shot down an F-22 Raptor left my readers in utter disbelief in <b>2009</b>. Well, in hindsight again, I ought to add that I had forgotten to quote the Korean balance sheet about the Rafale performance, as I had forgotten that a United Arab Emirates Air Force (UAEAF) Mirage 2000-9 (variant of Mirage 2000-5 Mk.2) flown by a French pilot would have &#8211; virtually &#8211; shot down an F-22 Raptor as well&#8230;</p>
<figure id="attachment_4308" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-4308" style="width: 259px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/20100523-RAFALE-La-Ferté-Alais-222.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="size-full wp-image-4308" title="20100523 RAFALE La Ferté Alais 222" src="/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/20100523-RAFALE-La-Fert&eacute;-Alais-222.jpg" alt="RAFALE fighter aircraft aerobatics at La Ferté Alais airshow 2010" width="259" height="195" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-4308" class="wp-caption-text">RAFALE La Ferté Alais 2010 © Xavier Cotton http://passiondesavions.blogspot.com/</figcaption></figure>
<p>I would never write anything like « an F-5 cannot down any French jetfighter ». Let us get real on this &#8211; I guess that either an F-5 or a MiG-21 could down any Mirage 2000 or Rafale. It depends on the radars; the sensors; the weapon systems used that day; the weather conditions; the pilots&rsquo; training; and their skills; the distance &#8211; BVR or WVR, not to mention autonomy; etc. When I read that some people remain adamant that any Rafale cannot have downed any F-22 Raptor, I think that they have the right to take such a stance. As I have the right to believe that they are wrong in their assertion. All-in-all, everything would be rumors&#8230; So, why should they care about them?</p>
<p>The pragmatic Swiss have honestly stated that they would be interested in the French Rafale for they got the results of their demanding NAC tests. However, due to a shrinking defense budget, they may not buy Rafales.</p>
<p>As far as the Brazilian, Emirati, Greek, and Indian (for MMRCA tender) media are concerned, they have already issued &#8211; at least once &#8211; breaking news according to which their countries would not purchase any Rafale for it would be « <b><em>too expensive</em></b>« .</p>
<p>Blimey! Let them buy what they like. I do not know whether it is worth paying for such performance because with these tenders, it is not a question of purchasing warplanes but foreign policies. Nonetheless, I would not be suprised to learn that some French Rafale pilots might be eager to challenge the brand new Chinese J-20 5th-generation fighter aircraft as it is deemed to be less performant than the F-22 Raptor.</p>
<p>If it were to happen &#8211; J-20 vs Rafale &#8211; the result would remain, as usual, among the rumors.   <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/15.0.3/72x72/1f609.png" alt="😉" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>Photo:<a href="http://passiondesavions.blogspot.com/"> © Xavier Cotton &#8211; http://passiondesavions.blogspot.com/</a></p>
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		<title>Dassault Fighter Aircraft Performance and F-22, JSF F-35, Typhoon</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 09:53:58 +0000</pubDate>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">As I have been told that <a href="https://airforces.fr/2009/12/20/rafale-vs-typhooneurofighter/">this post</a> about <strong>Rafales vs Eurofighter Typhoons, F-16s, and F-22s</strong> left some in disbelief, I believe it is fair to point out that some elements were written in bold typing as « rumours », and the publications quoted were not « filed » as rumours though it might have been some rumours as well &#8211; who knows, indeed? For instance, many times gossip spread about Mirage 2000s that would never shoot F-16s down. Never ever? Watch below…</p>



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<p style="text-align: justify;">Many (on a global basis &#8211; which means <strong>not everybody</strong>) people still believe that no <strong>Rafale</strong> could outperform any <strong>F-16</strong>. Let us watch hereafter (in French, sorry).</p>



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<p style="text-align: justify;">For those who cannot speak French, it is mentioned in this video that the <strong>Rafales</strong> defeated the <strong>F-16s</strong> in a US AFB, and the score would have been 6 &#8211; 2.</p>



<p style="text-align: justify;">Well, let us go back to <a href="https://airforces.fr/2009/12/20/rafale-vs-typhooneurofighter/">the previous Rafales&rsquo; performance post</a> for I have not added further information I had read before from a remarkable Swiss aviation specialist&rsquo;s website: <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20221107194806/http://psk.blog.24heures.ch/">AVIA NEWS</a>. Pascal &#8211; AVIA NEWS webmaster &#8211; let me quote <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20220626115159/http://psk.blog.24heures.ch/archive/2009/04/20/nac-seconde-offre1.html">his analysis</a> according to which the Rafale obtained the best score (95%) among the fighter aircraft evaluated for choosing which will replace the Swiss Air Force&rsquo;s F-5 Tiger. The other two competitors were the SAAB JAS-39 Gripen, and the Eurofighter / Typhoon. I am going to update <a href="https://airforces.fr/2009/12/20/rafale-vs-typhooneurofighter/">my previous article</a> about this figure.</p>



<p style="text-align: justify;">Last but not least: The Dutch did compare various fighter aircraft in 2002. Who remembers? The RNLAF &#8211; the Royal Netherlands Air Force &#8211; carried out this study and the balance sheet came out in the Dutch press:</p>
<h3 style="text-align: justify;">Here is the rating reported:</h3>
<h2 style="padding-left: 180px; text-align: justify;"><strong>F-35 = 6.97</strong></h2>
<h2 style="padding-left: 180px; text-align: justify;"><strong>RAFALE = 6.95</strong></h2>
<h2 style="padding-left: 180px; text-align: justify;"><strong>Eurofighter = 5.83</strong></h2>
<h2 style="padding-left: 180px; text-align: justify;"><strong>F-16 Block 60 = 5.80</strong></h2>



<p style="text-align: justify;">Well, we must admit that the JSF / F-35 Lightning II is the best fighter among those that were assessed. However it was a close shave, wasn&rsquo;t it?</p>



<p style="text-align: justify;">Some might say « it was just an illusion ». Well, why not? Illusion would be everywhere &#8211; as for instance:</p>



<ul class="wp-block-list"><li>Do you really think that a serious R&amp;D organisation is used to issuing so-called <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-35_Lightning_II#Concerns_over_performance_and_safety">inaccurate reports</a>?</li><li>Do you really think that a DGA/CHEAr research director would recognize that <strong>the Rafale can be on a par with the JSF / F-35 Lightning II?</strong> This is what happened during a symposium (colloque) in January 2006.</li></ul>



<p style="text-align: justify;">As a conclusion, many people still believe that F-16s can outperform <strong>Rafales</strong>, MiG-29s, Eurofighters, and even Su-27s. <strong>This</strong> is <strong>not </strong>an illusion.</p>
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