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		<title>BRAZIL puts off its decision to buy new Fighterjet</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2012 21:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Brazil is to spend up to 7 billion dollars (around 12 billion reals) for its Brazilian Air Force (FAB &#8211; Forca Aerea Brasileira) next procurement &#8211; fighter aircraft. There is no way to predict whether it will be Rafales, Gripens,<span class="ellipsis">&#8230;</span></p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align: justify;">Brazil is to spend up to 7 billion dollars (around 12 billion reals) for its <strong>Brazilian Air Force</strong> (<strong>FAB &#8211; Forca Aerea Brasileira</strong>) next procurement &#8211; fighter aircraft. There is no way to predict whether it will be <strong>Rafales</strong>, <strong>Gripens</strong>, or <strong>Super Hornets</strong>. Nobody knows much about what the tender outcome will be. We just know that India would advise Brazil in this competition. We will have to take another six months until Brazil makes a decision on this bid ie on December 31, 2012, or even later.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">On the one hand, the French Dassault Rafale is deemed ahead thanks to its <a title="RAFALE performances" href="https://airforces.fr/2010/02/14/french-fighter-aircraft-performance/">performance</a>, the Swiss <a title="NAC test" href="https://airforces.fr/2011/12/01/saab-gripen-wins-tender-in-switzerland/">NAC</a> tests, and thanks to a transfer of technology pledge. Moreover, the Rafale (carrier-capable) has won the Indian MMRCA tender among strong contenders &#8211; <strong>F/A-18E/F</strong> Super Hornet, MiG-35 Fulcrum F, Eurofighter/Typhoon, F-16IN Super Viper, <strong>JAS 39 NG</strong> Gripen. On the other hand, the U.S. Boeing F/A-18E/F Super Hornet would be cheaper but the transfer of technology still depends on another aircraft sale.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Remember about <a title="Rafale vs other fighter aircraft" href="https://airforces.fr/2009/12/20/rafale-vs-typhooneurofighter/"><strong>fighter aircraft performance</strong></a>&#8230; 3 years ago!</p>
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		<title>Could RAFALE benefit from F-35 glitches?</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Toni G.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2012 23:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>The British Harriers were to be replaced by the F-35Cs. Do you remember? You may have learnt from the recent news that the carrier variant of the Lockheed Martin Aeronautics Joint Strike Fighter &#8211; CV JSF (Carrier Vessel variant&#8217;s Joint<span class="ellipsis">&#8230;</span></p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<figure id="attachment_54" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-54" style="width: 287px" class="wp-caption alignright"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="size-full wp-image-54" title="40960477" src="https://airforces.fr/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/409604771.gif" alt="JSF F-35 Lightning II" width="287" height="436" /><figcaption id="caption-attachment-54" class="wp-caption-text">F-35 Lightning II</figcaption></figure>
<p>The British <strong>Harriers</strong> were to be replaced by the <strong>F-35C</strong>s. Do you remember? You may have learnt from the recent news that the carrier variant of the Lockheed Martin Aeronautics Joint Strike Fighter &#8211; CV JSF (Carrier Vessel variant&rsquo;s Joint Strike Fighter) &#8211; F-35C was <strong>unable to catch the wire onboard the aircraft carrier</strong> during the latest landing tests.</p>
<p>Strange as it may seem, the F-35C&rsquo;s designers may have not forecast what would unfold during a test flight while landing on an aircraft carrier:</p>
<p>The <strong>arresting hook</strong> (<strong>tailhook</strong>) never engaged the arresting wire as the clearance between the tail hook and the main landing gear&rsquo;s tyre tread is too short for such a speed. An <strong>F-35C Lightning II</strong> missing her carrier landing has been reported even though some U.S. officials would have dismissed such information which might result from simulated tests.</p>
<p>Added to that is a software bug which had grounded the CV JSF for 6 days a few month earlier for the fifth-generation fighter aircraft might have encountered <a title="F-35C - CV JSF" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-35C#F-35C" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">wing-folding input</a> while flying!</p>
<p>As a result, the British Ministry of Defence might find a Plan-B solution as these design flaws, and <a title="F-35 - Concerns over performance and safety" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_F-35_Lightning_II#Concerns_over_performance_and_safety" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">some others which date back to November 2011</a> are deemed unacceptable for such an expensive fighter aircraft &#8211; $139.5 million for the F-35C (CATOBAR &#8211; Catapult Assisted Take Off But Arrested Recovery), and $150 million for the F-35B (STOVL &#8211; Short Take-Off and Vertical Landing). The latter can land on carriers but she is more expensive, and the JSF program costs have already increased several times.</p>
<h4>Moreover, the JSF would not be able to fire AMRAAM air-to-air missiles as reported in this video:</h4>
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<figure id="attachment_4308" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-4308" style="width: 640px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/20100523-RAFALE-La-Ferté-Alais-222.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-4308 size-full" title="20100523 RAFALE La Ferté Alais 222" src="/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/20100523-RAFALE-La-Fert&eacute;-Alais-222.jpg" alt="RAFALE La Ferté Alais 2010 - © Xavier Cotton http://www.passionpourlaviation.fr/" width="640" height="480" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-4308" class="wp-caption-text">RAFALE La Ferté Alais 2010 © Xavier Cotton <a href="https://www.passionpourlaviation.fr/">http://www.passionpourlaviation.fr/</a></figcaption></figure>
<p>And there&rsquo;s even more: according to <a title="U.S. DoD - F-35 Quick Look Review " href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_F-35_Lightning_II#cite_note-104" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">a Pentagon study team report</a>, 13 areas of concern that remained to be addressed in the F-35 would have been identified. For instance, the Helmet Mounted Display System (HMDS) would not work properly&#8230;</p>
<p>The British <strong>MoD</strong> is therefore considering the purchase of either <strong>F/A-18E Super Hornets</strong> or <strong>RAFALEs</strong> for the <strong>RAF</strong>. The French Dassault which has already lost the Swiss NAC tender due to replace the Swiss Air Force&rsquo;s F-5s, would be proposing a new offer with 18 RAFALEs at a cost deemed lower than the 22 SAAB Gripens&rsquo; one according to the Swiss press.</p>
<p>The <strong>RAFALE</strong> is still in competition with the <strong>Eurofighter</strong> in the <strong>Indian MMRCA tender</strong>. the Indian officials are expected to make a decision this week. To be continued&#8230; ==&gt; We have just learnt (on January 31, 2012) that the RAFALE has won the MMRCA tender&#8230; <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/15.0.3/72x72/1f642.png" alt="🙂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2011 22:16:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>11/30/2011 &#8211; The news broke today : The Swiss Air Force is to acquire 22 Sweedish SAAB GRIPEN fighter aircraft. The Swiss government had warned that they were compelled to squeeze their budget for this $3.36 billion bid as they<span class="ellipsis">&#8230;</span></p>
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<p>11/30/2011 &#8211; The news broke today : The Swiss Air Force is to acquire 22 Sweedish SAAB GRIPEN fighter aircraft. The Swiss government had warned that they were compelled to squeeze their budget for this $3.36 billion bid as they could not afford to purchase the 33 fighter aircraft planned for the replacement of their F-5 Tiger fleet.</p>
<p><b>In spite of its outstanding performance during the tests as well as over the battlefields in Afghanistan, and in Libya, the Dassault Rafale was not chosen</b>. Moreover, like the EADS Eurofighter/Typhoon, it was deemed too expensive for Switzerland could not buy as many aircraft within the budget allocated.</p>
<p>The Gripen is a good option for Switzerland since it is the cheapest one. The version to be delivered &#8211; JAS 39E/F or Gripen Demo/NG &#8211; is believed to be an excellent one &#8211; IRST (InfraRed Search and Track); ES-05 Raven AESA (Active Electronically Scanned Array) radar &#038; SAR  (Synthetic Aperture Radar); Electronic Warfare (EW) systems; Helmet Mounted Sight and Display (HMSD)&#8230;</p>
<p>However, this new-generation Gripen NG is a single engine fighter aircraft. It was tactically outperformed by its opponents, and last but not least, it has not yet been produced. As a matter of fact, the Swiss should be involved in the R&#038;D works.</p>
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		<title>SAAB&#8217;s RAPID 3D MAPPING for Military Aircraft</title>
		<link>https://airforces.fr/2011/11/16/saabs-rapid-3d-mapping-for-military-aircraft/</link>
		
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Toni G.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2011 21:29:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>RAPID 3D MAPPING is a superior awareness system able to generate three dimensional maps. It processes pictures shot by digital and thermal sensors added to live georeferenced data onboard aircraft; drones; and helicopters. It was chosen by the SDMA &#8211;<span class="ellipsis">&#8230;</span></p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RAPID 3D MAPPING is a superior awareness system able to generate three dimensional maps. It processes pictures shot by digital and thermal sensors added to live georeferenced data onboard aircraft; drones; and helicopters.</p>
<p>It was chosen by the SDMA &#8211; Swedish Defence Materiel Administration &#8211; in order to provide 3D imagery to Gripen simulators last year.</p>
<p>The images can be compared several hours apart to establish whether threats can be considered in the latest analysis. As you can see in this video, the result looks quite accurate and useful for network centric warfare (NCW) purposes:</p>
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		<title>RAFALE omnipresent at Paris Air Show 2011</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Toni G.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2011 19:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>No other fighter aircraft will be as omnipresent at the Paris Air Show as the Rafale as it has been shorlisted for India&#8217;s MMRCA (Medium Multi-Role Combat Aircraft) tender along with the Eurofighter. The IAF (Indian Air Force) is to<span class="ellipsis">&#8230;</span></p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<figure id="attachment_5934" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-5934" style="width: 300px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="https://www.passionpourlaviation.fr/"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="size-medium wp-image-5934" title="P1030410_rafale" src="/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/P1030410_rafale-300x225.jpg" alt="RAFALE Le Bourget Airshow" width="300" height="225" srcset="https://airforces.fr/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/P1030410_rafale-300x225.jpg 300w, https://airforces.fr/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/P1030410_rafale.jpg 640w" sizes="(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-5934" class="wp-caption-text">RAFALE Le Bourget 2009 &#8211; Xavier Cotton https://www.passionpourlaviation.fr</figcaption></figure>
<p style="text-align: justify;">No other fighter aircraft will be as omnipresent at the Paris Air Show as the Rafale as it has been shorlisted for India&rsquo;s <a href="https://airforces.fr/2011/04/29/indias-fighter-aircraft-deal-rafale-and-typhoonstillincompetition/">MMRCA</a> (Medium Multi-Role Combat Aircraft) tender along with the Eurofighter. The IAF (Indian Air Force) is to order 126 multirole fighter aircraft for a deal of up to $10 billion. The <a href="https://airforces.fr/2009/12/20/rafale-vs-typhooneurofighter/">French Dassault Rafale</a> is still in competition with the Swedish SAAB JAS 39 Gripen, and the American F/A-18E/F Super Hornet in <a href="https://airforces.fr/2011/02/09/brazil-to-buy-u-s-f-18s-instead-of-french-rafales/">Brazil</a>.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">The Rafale also remains with the Gripen, and the Eurofighter in the <a href="https://airforces.fr/2008/10/18/rafale-evaluation-in-switzerland/">Swiss NAC competition</a> in order to replace the Swiss Air Force F-5s. The <a href="https://airforces.fr/2011/02/20/french-fighterjets-andor-pilots-possibly-superior/">French Air Force</a> has already demonstrated through the Rafale its combat readiness in Afghanistan, and over Libya. Its brand new reconnaissance pod Reco NG is now flying, and it managed to strike moving targets with its laser-guided AASM &#8211; Air-to-Ground Modular Weapon &#8211; beyond all expectations.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Its new Thales RBE2-AA <a href="https://airforces.fr/2010/06/07/f-16-anapg-80-aesa-radar/">AESA radar</a> is still being developed. It has already been tested, and should be fully operational next year.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">ToT (Transfer of Technology) has been pledged for the Rafale if the Indian government were to make its procurement decision.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Special thanks to Xavier Cotton, an aviation geek who provided the top left picture. Please visit his website <a href="https://www.passionpourlaviation.fr/">https://www.passionpourlaviation.fr/</a> full of fantastic posts about aircraft of all time as well as from everywhere.</p>
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		<title>INDIA&#8217;s Fighter Aircraft Deal &#8211; RAFALE &#038; TYPHOON still incompetition</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2011 11:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>The Indian Air Force Medium Multi-Role Combat Aircraft (MMRCA) should be a European fighter jet. India shortlisted the Eurofighter Typhoon and the French Rafale for a $12 billion fighter jet deal. 126 fighter aircraft are to be ordered! As controversial<span class="ellipsis">&#8230;</span></p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Indian Air Force Medium Multi-Role Combat Aircraft (MMRCA) should be a European fighter jet. India shortlisted the Eurofighter Typhoon and the French Rafale for a $12 billion fighter jet deal. 126 fighter aircraft are to be ordered! As controversial rumours have spread for months through the Internet and the Indian channels, nobody could be certain of the sort of decision that could be made. For instance, remember this idea of purchasing two different combat aircraft that was issued a few months ago. Then, the news came right out of the blue yesterday April 28, 2011. Indeed the American, Russian, and Swedish jetfighters have been discarded.</p>
<p>According to the video hereafter, </p>
<blockquote><p>The high-flying American campaign to win the $10 billion multirole combat aircraft tender has crashed.</p></blockquote>
<p>The Indian Defence Ministry confirmed that the F/A-18F Super Hornet and the latest F-16IN were out of the race. Neither of these U.S. fighters would have met the Indian Air Force&rsquo;s technical requirements during the trials that were also submitted to the JAS-39 Gripen; the MiG-35; the Rafale; and the Typhoon.</p>
<p><center><iframe loading="lazy" width="480" height="360" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/90GdBwYYjyg" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe></center></p>
<figure id="attachment_4308" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-4308" style="width: 300px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/20100523-RAFALE-La-Ferté-Alais-222.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="size-medium wp-image-4308" title="20100523 RAFALE La Ferté Alais 222" src="/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/20100523-RAFALE-La-Fert&eacute;-Alais-222-300x225.jpg" alt="RAFALE aerobatics at La Ferté Alais Airshow 2010" width="300" height="225" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-4308" class="wp-caption-text">RAFALE La Ferté Alais 2010 - Xavier Cotton http://passiondesavions.blogspot.com/</figcaption></figure>
<p>One may wonder why the Gripen was not selected in this competition. Well, this excellent aircraft is not equipped with any arrestor hook, and that is probably why it has not been kept in the race for this tender.</p>
<p>According to <a href="https://airforces.fr/2011/02/20/french-fighterjets-andor-pilots-possibly-superior/">previous articles</a> in this very website, the assumption that <a href="https://airforces.fr/2009/12/20/rafale-vs-typhooneurofighter/">a Rafale might have shot down an F-22 Raptor</a> plus some other rumours about <a href="https://airforces.fr/2010/02/14/french-fighter-aircraft-performance/">the French combat aircraft performance</a> left my readers in utter disbelief two years ago.</p>
<p>It is important to notice that the Rafale purchase is a rather expensive option. However, it should also be noted that, in spite of the modest political clout of France in India, as well as its price tag &#8211; $90 million &#8211; the Dassault Rafale remains in the final competition. A transfer-of-technology amendment might be added to the contract.</p>
<p>As the Super Hornet and the Super Viper have been rejected, this is a deep disapointment for Lockheed Martin; McDonnell Douglas; Boeing; General Dynamics; as well as a real watershed in the geopolitical approach in Asia.</p>
<p>Photo courtesy: Xavier Cotton <a href="http://passiondesavions.blogspot.com/">http://passiondesavions.blogspot.com/</a></p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Toni G.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2011 18:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>The Russian MiG-35 multirole fighter was expected to take part in the Bangalore airshow this month. However, her mysterious absence has been noticed by the journalists and the other 5 participants of the MMRCA (Medium Multi-Role Combat Aircraft) tender. The<span class="ellipsis">&#8230;</span></p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Russian MiG-35 multirole fighter was expected to take part in the Bangalore airshow this month.</p>
<p>However, her mysterious absence has been noticed by the journalists and the other 5 participants of the MMRCA (Medium Multi-Role Combat Aircraft) tender. The F/A18F Super Hornet; the F-16IN Super Viper; the Rafale; the Eurofighter EF-2000 Typhoon; the Gripen NG; and the MiG-35 are in contention to win the $11 billion tender. The Indian Air Force will then enlarge its fleet with up to 126 multirole fighter aircraft.</p>
<p>After starting this video on the MiG-35, the Russian voice is dubbed in English with a delay of a few seconds:</p>
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		<title>Last Magyar MiG-29 flight as Hungarian Air Force celebrated its 70th anniversary this month</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Toni G.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2010 18:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2010 21:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>08/26/2010 Article adapted from AVIANEWS As far as the Swiss Air Force is concerned, there has been two options so far &#8211; the choice of new fighter aircraft or postponement thereof, the second alternative has been chosen. You will find<span class="ellipsis">&#8230;</span></p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<figure style="width: 497px" class="wp-caption alignright"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" src="http://lh3.ggpht.com/_UIclUja48Y4/SlGcmsa3XOI/AAAAAAAAKMM/amzxzGzKfao/s640/LC1_1864_redimensionner.JPG" alt="Dassault RAFALE fighter aircraft aerobatics" width="497" height="331" /><figcaption class="wp-caption-text">RAFALE - Photo © Xavier Cotton - http://passiondesavions.blogspot.com/</figcaption></figure>
<p><b>08/26/2010 Article adapted from</b> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20220626114444/http://psk.blog.24heures.ch/archive/2010/08/26/avion-de-combat-la-suite-au-prochain-episode.html"><b>AVIANEWS</b></a></p>
<p>As far as the Swiss Air Force is concerned, there has been two options so far &#8211; the choice of new fighter aircraft  or postponement thereof, the second alternative has been chosen. You will find hereafter the Avianews webmaster&rsquo;s analysis:</p>
<p><b>This is the Swiss Federal Council Message:</b></p>
<p>« However,  given the current state of federal finances and priorities taken as a  whole, the time of acquisition is postponed to no later than 2015. The  Federal Council decided on the proposal of DDPS (Federal Department of Defence, Civil Protection and Sports) to postpone the  replacement of 54 obsolete combat aircraft F-5 Tiger Air Force. The  Head of the DDPS,  Ueli Maurer held a news conference on the postponement which is expected to last at  most until 2015. The  Federal Department of Finance and the DDPS together confirm by the end  of 2011 the conditions for an acquisition during the second half of the  decade.  »</p>
<p><b>The reasons for non selection:</b></p>
<p>First, this is an organizational problem from the financial organization of <em>Armée XXI</em>. Remember, the people had voted for the new military organization with a comfortable 70% « yes »! id est a military downsized with a budget of only 4.3 billion Swiss Francs now. However, the parliament has never put forward this budget that painfully reaches 3.6 billion. The Swiss People is reportedly disappointed by such loss of income, and deception as well.</p>
<p><strong>No F-5 replacement:</strong></p>
<figure style="width: 354px" class="wp-caption alignright"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class=" " src="http://lh3.ggpht.com/_UIclUja48Y4/SlGdfbfAh8I/AAAAAAAAKMM/1u3IiyMVA2Q/s640/LC1_1996_redimensionner.JPG" alt="Eurofighter Typhoon FGR4 on apron" width="354" height="222" /><figcaption class="wp-caption-text">Typhoon FGR4 - Photo © Xavier Cotton http://passiondesavions.blogspot.com/</figcaption></figure>
<p>Replacing the F-5 is out of the question anymore  but to get prepared for the next generation of F/A-18 from 2025. Consequently, there is more urgency to acquire a large number of aircraft as a whole block but split into several ones.</p>
<p><b>Consequences:</b></p>
<p>The losers in this case are the Swiss industry and jobs. Indeed,  if the cost of a fighter plane is expensive, the returns on  partnerships to « Offsets » were significantly higher and would have revitalized both the Swiss manufacturing industry and employment.</p>
<p><b>Competitors:</b></p>
<p>The three companies will meet in a few years for a new offer and therefore cannot comment on this « no choice »!</p>
<p>Dassault must be disappointed for they would  certainly have won the contract with his Rafale. The  version of the Rafale-04T was proposed with more powerful engines,  the wiring for the METEOR missile, the new targeting pod Damocles XF and the brand new IDM (Improved Data Modem).</p>
<p>It bodes well for Saab because they now may complete the Swedish  version of the Gripen E / F (NG), whose development is not completed  yet and find a buyer with the Swedish Air Force (SwAF). Indeed, it must order the Gripen E / F by 2015.</p>
<p>EADS  Eurofighter will be able to finalize its AESA E-scan radar and they are likely to reduce maintenance costs of the  aircraft as promised this summer to the Switzerland Economy Minister Doris Leuthard  at the ILA Berlin Airshow.</p>
<p>&#8230; To be continued &#8230;</p>
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		<title>RAFALE or EUROFIGHTER to become next Indian Air Force fighter jet according to Indian media &#8211; Russian and US media deny</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2010 15:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Amazing rumours have spread for a couple of days regarding the MMRCA (Indian Air Force Medium Multi-Role Combat Aircraft) or the MRCA Tender which is an ongoing competition to supply the Indian Air Force with 126 Multi-Role Combat Aircraft maybe<span class="ellipsis">&#8230;</span></p>
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<p>The post <a href="https://airforces.fr/2010/08/12/rafale-or-eurofighter-to-become-next-indian-air-force-fighter-jet-according-to-indian-media-russian-and-us-media-deny/">RAFALE or EUROFIGHTER to become next Indian Air Force fighter jet according to Indian media &#8211; Russian and US media deny</a> appeared first on <a href="https://airforces.fr">AVIATION ENGLISH</a>.</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<figure id="attachment_4308" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-4308" style="width: 300px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/20100523-RAFALE-La-Ferté-Alais-222.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="size-medium wp-image-4308" title="20100523 RAFALE La Ferté Alais 222" src="/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/20100523-RAFALE-La-Fert&eacute;-Alais-222-300x225.jpg" alt="Rafale fighter aircraft aerobatics at La Ferté Allais airshow in 2010" width="300" height="225" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-4308" class="wp-caption-text">RAFALE La Ferté Alais 2010 - © Xavier Cotton http://passiondesavions.blogspot.com/</figcaption></figure>
<p>Amazing rumours have spread for a couple of days regarding the MMRCA (Indian Air Force Medium Multi-Role Combat Aircraft) or the MRCA Tender which is an ongoing competition to supply the Indian Air Force with 126 Multi-Role Combat Aircraft maybe up to 189 fighter jets.</p>
<p>The Indians have considered 6 bidders so far:</p>
<p>Typhoon (European Eurofighter Consortium)<br />
Rafale (French Dassault)<br />
MiG-35 Fulcrum-F (Russian UAC subsidiary RSK-MiG)<br />
Gripen NG/IN or JAS 39 (Swedish Saab)<br />
Super Hornet F/A-18 E/F (US Boeing)<br />
F-16IN Fighting Falcon (US Lockheed Martin)</p>
<p>As you can watch the video below, two fighter aircraft have been quoted as finalists for the last stage: The EUROFIGHTER-Typhoon and the RAFALE.</p>
<p>However, American and Russian media deem that such statement cannot be true. Official results should be announced soon. Well, wait and see&#8230;</p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">As I have been told that <a href="https://airforces.fr/2009/12/20/rafale-vs-typhooneurofighter/">this post</a> about <strong>Rafales vs Eurofighter Typhoons, F-16s, and F-22s</strong> left some in disbelief, I believe it is fair to point out that some elements were written in bold typing as « rumours », and the publications quoted were not « filed » as rumours though it might have been some rumours as well &#8211; who knows, indeed? For instance, many times gossip spread about Mirage 2000s that would never shoot F-16s down. Never ever? Watch below…</p>



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<p style="text-align: justify;">Many (on a global basis &#8211; which means <strong>not everybody</strong>) people still believe that no <strong>Rafale</strong> could outperform any <strong>F-16</strong>. Let us watch hereafter (in French, sorry).</p>



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<p style="text-align: justify;">For those who cannot speak French, it is mentioned in this video that the <strong>Rafales</strong> defeated the <strong>F-16s</strong> in a US AFB, and the score would have been 6 &#8211; 2.</p>



<p style="text-align: justify;">Well, let us go back to <a href="https://airforces.fr/2009/12/20/rafale-vs-typhooneurofighter/">the previous Rafales&rsquo; performance post</a> for I have not added further information I had read before from a remarkable Swiss aviation specialist&rsquo;s website: <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20221107194806/http://psk.blog.24heures.ch/">AVIA NEWS</a>. Pascal &#8211; AVIA NEWS webmaster &#8211; let me quote <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20220626115159/http://psk.blog.24heures.ch/archive/2009/04/20/nac-seconde-offre1.html">his analysis</a> according to which the Rafale obtained the best score (95%) among the fighter aircraft evaluated for choosing which will replace the Swiss Air Force&rsquo;s F-5 Tiger. The other two competitors were the SAAB JAS-39 Gripen, and the Eurofighter / Typhoon. I am going to update <a href="https://airforces.fr/2009/12/20/rafale-vs-typhooneurofighter/">my previous article</a> about this figure.</p>



<p style="text-align: justify;">Last but not least: The Dutch did compare various fighter aircraft in 2002. Who remembers? The RNLAF &#8211; the Royal Netherlands Air Force &#8211; carried out this study and the balance sheet came out in the Dutch press:</p>
<h3 style="text-align: justify;">Here is the rating reported:</h3>
<h2 style="padding-left: 180px; text-align: justify;"><strong>F-35 = 6.97</strong></h2>
<h2 style="padding-left: 180px; text-align: justify;"><strong>RAFALE = 6.95</strong></h2>
<h2 style="padding-left: 180px; text-align: justify;"><strong>Eurofighter = 5.83</strong></h2>
<h2 style="padding-left: 180px; text-align: justify;"><strong>F-16 Block 60 = 5.80</strong></h2>



<p style="text-align: justify;">Well, we must admit that the JSF / F-35 Lightning II is the best fighter among those that were assessed. However it was a close shave, wasn&rsquo;t it?</p>



<p style="text-align: justify;">Some might say « it was just an illusion ». Well, why not? Illusion would be everywhere &#8211; as for instance:</p>



<ul class="wp-block-list"><li>Do you really think that a serious R&amp;D organisation is used to issuing so-called <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-35_Lightning_II#Concerns_over_performance_and_safety">inaccurate reports</a>?</li><li>Do you really think that a DGA/CHEAr research director would recognize that <strong>the Rafale can be on a par with the JSF / F-35 Lightning II?</strong> This is what happened during a symposium (colloque) in January 2006.</li></ul>



<p style="text-align: justify;">As a conclusion, many people still believe that F-16s can outperform <strong>Rafales</strong>, MiG-29s, Eurofighters, and even Su-27s. <strong>This</strong> is <strong>not </strong>an illusion.</p>
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<p>The post <a href="https://airforces.fr/2009/12/20/rafale-vs-typhooneurofighter/">RAFALE vs Typhoon/Eurofighter, F-16s, and even F-22Raptor! Guess which gives the others a rough ride?</a> appeared first on <a href="https://airforces.fr">AVIATION ENGLISH</a>.</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><figure id="attachment_2195" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-2195" style="width: 200px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="https://lemamouth.blogspot.com/2009/12/la-raf-nest-plus-ce-quelle-est.html"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="size-full wp-image-2195 " title="French Navy RAFALE fighter aircraft takeoff from a carrier aircraft deck" src="/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/thumb_Rafale-080521-N-2984R-077U.S.-Navy-photo-by-Mass-Communication-Specialist-3rd-Class-Ricardo-J.-Reyes-Released.jpg" alt="French Navy RAFALE fighter aircraft takeoff from a carrier aircraft deck" width="200" height="244" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-2195" class="wp-caption-text">RAFALE to defeat any other fighter aircraft? Photo:©  Mass Communication Specialist 3rd Class Ricardo J. Reyes</figcaption></figure></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Strange as it may seem, the French have not managed to export Rafale fighter aircraft so far&#8230; However, the Rafale has been deemed to be an excellent fighter aircraft so many times &#8211; formidable in dogfighting, awesome when it strikes, and its superb CATIA-designed streamlining turns it into a feline grace nonetheless redoubtable whenever it is to be challenged in the skies.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">There have already been <b>rumours</b> such as:</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">&#8211; <strong>Rafales </strong>&#8211; thanks to its RCS (Radar Cross Section) &#8211;  <strong>would have beaten F/A-18s Hornet</strong>.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">&#8211; After several dogfights reported between the Rafale and the Raptor, <strong>( Rafale vs F-22 Raptor:  1 &#8211; 1 , according to the rumours )</strong> BVR engagement exercises would have been cancelled. Another version deems that F-22s never took part in such exercises, so what did they do there at that time? Sightseeing? Not to mention the F-22&rsquo;s withdrawal at the Paris Air Show 2009&#8230;</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">&#8211; The <strong>Rafale was onboard American CVs</strong> (aircraft carriers) in 2007, 2008, and 2009. The rumour in forums spread about American fighter aircraft that could not stand the Rafales&rsquo; level of performance during exercises.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">But who knows, actually? However, some other elements have also been reported. They do not come from forums or blogs. So, can they be called « rumours »?</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">For instance, I still remember an article from<strong> The New York Times</strong> dated July 16th 2006. It was reported that the Rafales could outfly F-15, F-16 and F-18 opponents in dogfights. They also won against F-15s and Eurofighter Typhoons in technical and performance evaluations . The <strong>American media paid tribute to the French jet</strong> but almost nobody knew that in France at that time. How bizarre&#8230; Well, it must be admitted that there is a curious fad in France that consists in criticizing everything that works.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Remember, according to French TF1 channel in 2008&#8230; This was the balance sheet:</p>
<h2 style="text-align: justify;">FAF Rafales vs USAF F-16s :  6 &#8211; 2</h2>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Moreover,<strong> the former Red Arrows team leader </strong>&#8211; Peter Collins &#8211; stated last month that<strong> it should be done justice to this aircraft</strong> for the Rafale would be according to him &#8211; as he had just flown a standard F3 Rafale &#8211; a « war-fighter par excellence ». He added that he deemed the Rafale to be <strong>the best and most complete combat aircraft that he had ever flown</strong>. He concluded in saying that if he had to go into combat, on any mission, against anyone, he would, without question, choose the Rafale.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Last but not least, the French Rafales would have slammed &#8211; if I may put it this way &#8211; the other aircraft in an exercise in the UAE &#8211; United Arab Emirates. Even the F-22 Raptor &#8211; though 5th generation fighter &#8211; could hardly do anything to « tame » this tough challenger. According to Jean-Marc Tanguy&rsquo;s information, defence journalist, the balance sheet lies in the figures hereafter:</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Dogfighting (with Rafale weapons system&rsquo;s performance lowered on purpose): </span></p>
<h3 style="text-align: justify;">FAF Rafales vs RAF Typhoons :  4 &#8211; 0</h3>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Dogfighting with further Rafale weapons system reduction</span>:</p>
<h3 style="text-align: justify;">FAF Rafales vs RAF Typhoons :  3 &#8211; 1</h3>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Final balance sheet (in both scenarii the Rafales did not have full weapons systems&#8230;)</span>:</p>
<h2 style="text-align: justify;">FAF Rafales vs RAF Typhoons :  7 &#8211; 1</h2>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Not to mention Rafales outperform F-16CJs in targeting while in air-to-air and ground attacks thanks to the Rafale&rsquo;s FSO &#8211; Front Sector Optronic.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">I read from a remarkable Swiss aviation specialist&rsquo;s website: <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20221107194806/http://psk.blog.24heures.ch/">AVIA NEWS</a>. Pascal &#8211; AVIA NEWS webmaster &#8211; let me quote <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20220626115159/http://psk.blog.24heures.ch/archive/2009/04/20/nac-seconde-offre1.html">his analysis</a> according to which the Rafale obtained the best score (95%) among the fighter aircraft evaluated for choosing which will replace the Swiss Air Force&rsquo;s F-5 Tiger. The other two competitors were the SAAB JAS-39 Gripen, and the Eurofighter / Typhoon.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Furthermore, the Dutch did compare various fighter aircraft in 2002. Who remembers? The RNLAF &#8211; the Royal Netherlands Air Force &#8211; carried out this study and the balance sheet came out in the Dutch press:</p>
<h3 style="text-align: justify;">Here are the ratings reported:</h3>
<p style="padding-left: 120px; text-align: justify;"><strong>F-35 = 6.97</strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 120px; text-align: justify;"><strong>RAFALE = 6.95</strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 120px; text-align: justify;"><strong>Eurofighter = 5.83</strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 120px; text-align: justify;"><strong>F-16 Block 60 = 5.80</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Well, we must admit that the JSF / F-35 Lightning II is the best fighter among those that were assessed. However it was a close shave, wasn&rsquo;t it?</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">You will find an excerpt below of Jean-Marc Tanguy&rsquo;s post from his blog « <a href="https://lemamouth.blogspot.com/">Le Mamouth</a>« :</p>
<p><figure id="attachment_2196" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-2196" style="width: 200px" class="wp-caption alignright"><a href="https://lemamouth.blogspot.com/2009/12/la-raf-nest-plus-ce-quelle-est.html"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="size-full wp-image-2196" title="French Navy's RAFALE multirole fighter aircraft on deck with shooter" src="/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/thumb_Rafale-080521-N-2984R-066U.S.-Navy-photo-by-Mass-Communication-Specialist-3rd-Class-Ricardo-J.-Reyes-Released.jpg" alt="French Navy's Rafale multirole fighter aircraft on deck with shooter" width="200" height="285" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-2196" class="wp-caption-text">Rafale on deck &#8211; U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 3rd Class Ricardo J. Reyes</figcaption></figure></p>
<blockquote><p>La première confrontation engageant quatre Rafale contre quatre Typhoon s&rsquo;est terminée par un 4-0 en faveur des Français. Malgré, explique-t-on, l&#8217;emport d&rsquo;un armement air-air fictivement dégradé. Après avoir un peu dégradé encore l&rsquo;armement, le Rafale l&rsquo;a encore emporté, 3-1.<br />
Le Rafale a été confronté au F22 lors d&rsquo;un vol, mais dans un cadre limité au combat air-air à vue. Il n&rsquo;aurait été dans le collimateur du chasseur américain qu&rsquo; à une reprise, explique t-on aussi.<a href="https://lemamouth.blogspot.com/2009/12/la-raf-nest-plus-ce-quelle-est.html"> CLIQUEZ ICI pour lire L&rsquo;ARTICLE ENTIER en français</a></p>
<p>Citation du Mamouth &#8211; <a href="https://lemamouth.blogspot.com/">Le Mamouth</a> courtesy</p></blockquote>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Photos: U.S. <a href="https://www.af.mil/" class="broken_link" rel="nofollow">Air Force Link</a></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Rafales on movie below:</p>
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